[6] In 1855, his son Sir James Power, laid the foundation stone for the O'Connell Monument,[3] and in 1859 became High Sheriff of Dublin. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only . Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. We were up near Bushmills this past summer during our Ireland vacation (on our way from Belfast to The Causeway) and our Tipperary-based guide recommended not stopping there due to the companys historic treatment of Catholics. I can just say Cheers! in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. linseed oil is used on its own or blended with other drying oils, resins and solvents as an impregnator and varnish in wood finishing, as a pigment binder in oil paints, as a plasticizer and hardener in putty and in the manufacture of linoleum. from wikipedia, Michael Jackson Delicious. It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. As most Irish distillers use their barrels more than once, the color and bourbon flavor is thinned a bit once blended. as the visit was ending up with only 3 tiny plastic glasses half full. Bottom line Bushmills 16 yr has won my top pick in Irish whiskey over the 21 yr and Middletons, Redbreast and all the others. All in all meaning, were I to have gone to Ireland to visit, my relatives would probably have been more confused than was I. I would wager that half the comments are from people that have never been to Irelandif I drink vodka does this make me a communist -no! I became a Whiskey drinker a few years back now, and started with Jameson. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Up here in Canada (BC) its quite difficult to find. Believe in the Trinity of God. Not sure this is the right spot, but an Irish colleague and I, had this debate last week around Bushmills v Jameson in an Irish pub, here in New York. [12] However, with many of the Irish distilleries having closed in the early 20th century in part due to their failure to embrace a change in consumer preference towards blended whiskey, Powers were instrumental in convincing the remaining Irish distilleries to reconsider their stance on blended whiskey.[8]. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. ** TONIGHT!! Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. In: St. Patrick's Day. It is all quite harmonious between the distilleries. This kind of stupidity makes us look like clowns in the eyes of most real Irish. Concept of Deity. Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? Bushmills was my first taste of Irish Whiskey. And let us not forget the new cask finishes of The Tyrconnell. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. Get your facts right ! Such days are long over, and Dew is rapidly making up the difference in sales, and has already overtaken Jamison in may countries in Europe. Heres the real question why does everyone insist on handing us shots of jameson late night in colorado? Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. Spent a crap of $$$ too so we could compare them all side by side. And, fact fans, the space-age Middleton distillery in the far south makes the neutral alcohol for the blends produced at Bushmills up North. Apparently it is, or was, a thing among certain Irish-Americans to signal their genuine Irishness by refusing Bushmills and drinking Jameson, supposedly the whiskey of Catholics and supporters of the Republic of Ireland. This must be one of the most pointless debates I have seen in a long time. wear my orange on St. Patricks I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! To this day, even though IDL sold the Bushmills distillery to Diageo a number of years ago, the bottling facility at Bushmills still handles some of the bottling of Jameson, Powers & Paddys. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? Redbreast makes for good sipping but for my budget Powers is my standby. Thanks for the clarification. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Im Irish American and I volunteered for both Sinn Fin and Irish Northern aide. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. I should have thought of other whisk(e)y cocktails when typing that last thought. Thank you for the real-world experience! The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . I dont know about Ireland, but in some parts of the U.S there still major problems. It has earned a permanent place in my cabinet right next to my Glenrothes 1995 which I prefer over all the other SM brands including MacAllan 18 & 25. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. Starting with Bushmills which I am using as a warm up to my usual Wild Turkey 101. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Theyve also started work on a massive bottling plant on site to bring all areas of Dew production back to the town. I come from an island which has been called the most Irish place outside of Ireland and weve had our papist-loyalist troubles in the past, where they will remain. Who really cares. My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. I think its alot worse than some backward hick town in yankeeville. This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. After all, thats what the Jacobites were all about. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! Connemara Cask Strength is a real treat, and Greenore Single Grain is likewise enjoyable. So, so stupid. A few years ago during a trip to Ireland we had dinner at the home of some relatives. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. Big thank you to reader Jonathan for providing this informative link about this. The only option is to import a case in through the provincial liquor stores at about $35 CAD per bottle. Whiskey is Irish, whatever brand (or religion), followed by Americans (as in bourbon whiskey etc.). Literal Meaning. They are just businesses making whiskey. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . ID was purchased by Pernod Ricard in 1988 and they sold off Bushmills to Diageo in 2005. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. To those who want to talk about Catholic vs Protestant issues, at least go visit the country before assuming anything. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. However, its all moot now as the French reap the profits in the end , Jameson, Bushmills, Tullemore, Red Breast, Powers. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? Ah. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. Initially a war between various Protestant and Catholic states in the fragmented Holy Roman Empire, it gradually developed into a more general . Thats where I paused it and jumped on to google to figure out exactly what neat meant, which lead me to this article of yours: https://jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2008/up-neat-straight-up-or-on-the-rocks/. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? I like Jamesons.andI like BushmillsandI like Tullamore Dew.and I dont care if theyre made by Indonesian monks that hate my mothertheyre just tasty. : ). Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even Peter Knox Id be all up for emigrating from US to Ireland, in a heartbeat, but I read about the job prospects there are as bad (possibly worse) than here. One company that undeniably did discriminate against Catholics though was Guinness in Dublin yet i dont see any boycotts in place for that. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. It is either good or it is not. Regards, BTW, while traveling through a Protestant section of Belfast, our tour guide (who had a joke or good story for most Irish traditions) pointed out a notorious Loyalist BarThat bar there (the Hideout)was blown up many times by the IRA during the Troubles. Then he went on to say, If youre ever down and out and ready to end it all, and cash in your chips, go in that bar there and order a double Jameson, and youll find somebody in there to help you with your problem., There is no doubt that the Irish themselves know all about the Catholic Whiskey and the Protestant Whiskey. Jameson is the Catholic Whiskey, and Bushmills is the Protestant Whiskey., I met Noel Campbell owner of Bushmills he told me it does not matter what foot you you Wear your shoe on. Bushmills, which refused to hire Catholics for many years has been actively trying to recruit Catholic employees of late, because the pay a wee tax penalty for lack of diversity in their workforce. There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Mind you the order as I see it goes Knappogue 51 > Midleton Rare > Knappogue 15 > Redbreast > Black Bush > Knappogue 92 > Tullamore Dew (makes for the best Irish Coffee) > Then take your pick of the Jamesons/Bushmills/Cooley offerings. DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. [1][2] A gold label adorned each bottle and it was from these that the whiskey got the name Powers Gold Label. Ive lost members of my family to the IRA in THIS generation. post number 66). So have a pint, pull, prayer, and lets party. [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. All Irish whiskey is great. As for the religious differences, its always been easier for those not in the mess (in the US, England) to say and perpetuate things over that of those who have to suffer the views and manipulations of outsiders. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. The main differences between Tullamore Dew vs Jameson are: Tullamore Dew is produced in different distilleries, whereas Jameson is produced in a single distillery. If they do in fact have a Catholic Master Distiller, he is probably just the token worker. Cake Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. Turned out not to be such a controversy. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. As someone who drinks her whiskey with ginger ale and a slice of lime, I definitely vote Powers over any other. We were servedcorned beef and cabbage with California wine and a shot of Paddy cut with Baileys after dinner. Understanding the church. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. Hats off to all the others. The answer is that it depends on the distillery. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! Assertive and complex, with lots of development and seemingly infinite dimension. They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Id suggest Tullamore Dew, it was founded by Catholics and is still owned by a nice Irish Catholic company. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. 1996 in coal harbour Vancouver BC. Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . But it was mentioned in passing at several rural pubs in co. Mayo and Sligo that Bushmills was loyalist swill, all in good fun Im sure but its not limited to plastic paddies. Support the old sod. All of it. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. I find it to be a littlethick? 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