With all the recent rebellions, he was probably worried that his alliances were going to fail, because he may have appeared to weaken. And that is why God heeded the prayer of the land. Based on what he knew, and what was available in God's law, David should have been much more judicious. He did not do a thing that a king or judge should do. To all appearances, it seems that they got away with it. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" Just tell me and I will do it for you.. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. II Samuel 21:7 But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. Saul killed a lot of people. He gives them exactly what they want, and look at what happens. There are references to the Lord, but they are not references in a spiritual sense. How many rebellions were there? We have examples of where that has happened, but he did not do that this time. They looked to Him and were radiant, and their faces were not ashamed. He apparently killed Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". 2 Samuel 21:2 At this, David summoned the Gibeonites and spoke to them. We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. God isn't very pleased that these bodies have been exposed for six months against His law.". Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. Joshua did try to make lemonade out of his lemons. But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. We would like to make a covenant with you.". Would it be a good alliance to have with these people from far away?". Skeptic turned believer, Catholic, father of 3, ABC/DTS graduate, guitar music ministry Baptist church. However, that is not the case. You are no longer fit to be king." What have you been thinking about?". That is not what it says here. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? Now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; the children of Israel had sworn protection to them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. He enslaved them all, and made them wood cutters and menial laborers at the Tabernacle. There is less bloodshed, and there will not be much opportunity like in Gentile nations for these blood feuds to last for years and generations. He had a body of law that he could have referred back to and come up with a solution. It would have been the answer. What did David do to end the famine caused by Saul breaking a treaty with the Gibeonites? Saul agreed, and off he went. II Samuel 21:1-2 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. David then goes to Gibeonites and asked to make amends. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. The words "thirty" and "forty" are not in the original Hebrew. I think he was distracted because the turmoil had taken such a toll on Israel, and the famine too, that he was worried about the economy, rebuilding cities and fortifications, and his alliances with Hiram and others. Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. Joshua 9:3-6 But when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, they worked craftily [remember that], and went and pretended to be ambassadors. Let his blood be on us and on our children., Perhaps the Gibeonites are a type of the inclusion of the gentiles Romans 9:22-24. 5. That is how we overcome the dearth of the truth and the dearth of righteousness in our day. ", So David went out and said, "There are some things that have needed to be done. King Saul exhibited that hubris, that overweening pride in his own decisions and that unfounded confidence in his own good judgment that he brought certain and lasting disaster upon his own dynasty. We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? The Bible implicitly hints at something which caused a feud which was settled only by the blood of Sauls descendants. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. Certainly, after three years you would. It is tainted.". You can read about them for yourself in the Book of Joshua, chapters nine and ten. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. You are getting later and later in David's life here. Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. He just weakly said, "Oh okay, whatever you want. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. II Samuel 21:14 So they performed all that the king commanded. God extends blessings far farther into the future than He does the curses. The angel of the LORD encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. The people of the land stand for our spiritual enemiesour human nature, this world, and Satan the Devil. Saul and the Pharisees persecuted and killed the Christians, The sons of King Saul were killed as a result of this attempted genocide, The non-Christian inhabitants of Jerusalem were destroyed in AD70 Gods judgment on them for murdering his son and doubtless, the early Christians. He was endangering the whole army by being out there, an old man trying to fight like a young man. Does the Bible encourage the practice of Lent? It would be the equivalent of an event somewhere between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. I am putting this all together from history. The two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul ( v.8 ) Now that we have established that there was a horrible massacre at some point in the past, remember there was sin, and there was a crime committed. Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. It has got to go. Deuteronomy 21:22-23 If a man has committed a sin deserving of death, and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his body shall not remain overnight on the tree, but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who is hanged is accursed of God. 12 Saul said, Listen now, son of Ahitub.. Then David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of Jonathan his son, from the men of Jabesh Gilead who had stolen them from the street of Beth Shan, where the Philistines had hung them up, after the Philistines had struck down Saul in Gilboa. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. Even though the avenger of blood could kill the person if he caught him before he arrived at the city of refugewhat this verse is saying, here, is that if the nation follows through, and enlarges the lands by obeying God, He will designate more cities of refuge so that they are closer. Does the devil have power to make us sick? They did not ask, "God, what should we do to these people, the Gibeonites? Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. For all his misguided efforts and pains, Saul reaped the fruits of his delusion. Clarify That is that he could have gone along with the Gibeonite's demands in order to get rid of seven possible contenders for his throne. Vote Up How does this all connect with Ezekiel chapter 18? In fact, it can be read as if David approached it as only a minor administrative matter. 2Samuel 21:1, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death.. Saul also had sound state reasons for his action, for the Gibeonites were occupying an enclave in the very So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal [Merabsee margin of most Bibles] the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. It is very evident from verse 4 that somebody offered money, either from the palace or from the family of Saul. But, the big thing was that he did not consult God about what he should do about it. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. These curses are things like diseases that might affect genetics, and they came as the result of sin. Back to the Gibeonitesmost people probably did not remember it. And, that was that. King David was probably huffing and puffing, "I can't lift this thing! . God did not necessarily overlook all their sins, but He certainly forgave them. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. He was far from God during this time. There was not a cloud in sight and you are the king. There was no negotiation; there was no calling them on anything. We have our own sins to pay for; we do not pay for theirs. The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. We see in this little vignette that innocent people die; grief lingers forever; idolatry is committed; and the curse of famine continues; another harvest fails; and the land remains defiled; everything stinks of death. Or as the What do we do in a time of spiritual famine? Then, pray for all you are worth so that your relationship with God and Jesus Christ is strong when the famine hits. Instead, they told a story that either ignored the truth completely or, at least, shaded the truth in such a way that it was full of guile and deceit. Then we have verses 34 through 36. WebThe LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. ", The Gibeonites, we are told, were not necessarily a warlike people. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." So, he kept his own covenant, but he did not go any further to figure out from God's law to know what should be done in this situation. But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. And the king said, "I will give them." These are the two hints. There is no biblical account of this escapade of Saul and his house against Gibeon. For many today, this time period is ancient history. WebWhen Sauls agents came up, she pretended that David was ill and placed a household idol and a net of goats hair in his bed, as if her husband were still lying there (vv. Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the man who trusts in Him! WebKing Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. We are talking about the possibility of only two of the seven even remotely having any guilt in this matter whatsoever. What is meaning of 2 Cor. Joshua 9:14 is the key to Israel's problem. Perhaps those first two, Armoni, and Mephibosheth were old enough to have participated in the event. They agree to the death of seven of Saul's descendants. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. THE STORY OF THE GIBEONITES - What should we get out of this? This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. Why were two of Saul's sons and five of Saul's grandsons killed for a crime they didn't commit? Fifty years ago was 1957. See? Yet, the Bible specifically says in Hebrews 4:15 that He was without sin. BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with Scripture has said this explicitly. Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. "There was a famine in the days of King David for three years, year after year. II Samuel 21:8-9 So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. Their special, if dishonest, dealings with the leaders of Israel gained them a notoriety that most of the tribes and clans of the ancient Mid-East never attained. When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." I am just going to start with the backdrop to the incident. WebThe biblical writer confirms this charge by stating that Saul tried to annihilate [ nkah, to inflict a dead blow] them (2 Sam. Much later, King Saul ignored this covenant of peace and killed some Gibeonites. So they performed all that the king commanded. Saul became a bit strange in the head after this, if you will remember. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. There is no indication in II Samuel 21 that David got advice from any of his ministers about how to deal with this situation. I think he was distracted by all the cares of his office of being king. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. But talk about your flawed heroes! His anger at the It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. Completely ignoring God's explicit command to spare the Gibeonites, Saul decreed it was time to remove them completely by exterminating them. Nearly two-thirds of American professing Christians believe that their Savior sinned. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. Eisenhower was still in office. David may have begun to think about this now, "What is going on here? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints! Perhaps the Scriptures are contrasting the faithless actions of Saul and his house in regard to the covenant with the Gibeonites, with the faithful actions of David in regard to the covenant with Jonathan. Saul, after having disqualified Later, during a wasting famine, David, attempting a political rather than a righteous solution, yielded to the Gibeonites' request that descendants of Saul be hanged to avenge the slaughter. My supposition is that he may have been still questioning God about the way his reign seemed to have crumbled, and all he had was enemies around him. Now it came to pass, when Adonizedec king of God said explicitly to destroy everything! It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. A snare is a trap. The person who commits a sin is guilty of that sin, and God punishes that person for that sin. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. It is after Absalom's rebellion. It is very clear, and very simplejust two little verses. There is another thing that needs to be thrown out there as a possible scenario, and this would have been the very worst and lowest that David could have sunk to. The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite spirit. Please ensure your answer MEETS all our guidelines. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. In 2 Samuel 21, we read of the tragic repercussion that followed when King Saul didnt honor the covenant and murdered some Gibeonites. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. Their representatives were not up front with the Israeli leaders. The Gibeonites take the young men and essentially lynch them, leaving the bodies of Sauls sons and grandsons to rot, exposed and humiliated in the presence of God at a local shrine. WebThese lists are not concerned with the Gibeonites at Gibeon, but with the Benjaminite group which came to settle at Gibeon in the course of time. Now if the LORD your God enlarges your territory, as He swore to your fathers, and gives you the land which He promised to give to your fathers, and if you keep all these commandments and do them, which I command you today, to love the LORD your God and to walk always in His ways, then you shall add three more cities for yourself besides these three, lest innocent blood be shed in the midst of your land which the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, and thus guilt of bloodshed be upon you. It is his sin. Notice that I Kings begins not many chapters after this. WebA famine lasting three years hit Israel during the earlier half of David 's reign at Jerusalem. Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? It cut us off from God. At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. This meant the latter harvest has passed, and maybe another month or so went by. Berean Literal Bible Acts 13:21. God tells us that, spiritually, we have to go and wipe them out. Other Translations for 2 Samuel 21:1 Discussion for 2 Samuel 21 View All September 01 2013 God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. The last time Saul did swear not to kill David, Saul swore "by YHWH" not to kill david he broke it many times over since. WebThe Lord answered, Saul and his family of murderers are the reason for this shortage, because he killed the Gibeonites. 2 Samuel 21:1 American Standard Version (ASV) 1 And there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David sought the face of Jehovah. Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. On the mammoth scene of world history this minor alliance would rank as a minute encounter. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. But, he did not. I do not know if that was the case, but he had just gone through Absalom's rebellion, and Sheba's rebellion, and maybe he allowed that to cross his mind too. King Saul (and his house?) DECEPTION AND COST You might say a whole cycle of generations. He says that He visits the iniquity upon them. I know that is how I always read itas straight historyand I did not think about it very much. II Samuel 21:1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. David didnt get the throne until Saul and Jonathon were both dead. David was anointed king many years before he took the throne. He had Saul tryin "We don't want any money, for sure not Saul's money. Israel plagued by allowing the deception God's correction may come a They are going to cause problems. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. Of course, a part of it is being able to look at ourselves and see how dirty, nasty, and rotten we are, and saying, "There is no way that anybody could live in this world without sin; even God's beloved Son.". The stories of such people like Abel, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and on through the chapter give us hope that like them we can overcome and be assured of entering the Kingdom of God. The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. They handed their enemies hard, stale, moldy bread and told them it had been freshly baked when they left home. What is the meaning of the parable of the rich man and his manager? God says very clearly that Israel was to conquer them, destroy them, and make no covenant with them. Wherever he turned, he harassed them. David did not come to this with any regal neutrality in the least. Evidently, that is what he did. God told Joshua to get rid of all these foreigners in the land. Or as the Gibeonites said Saul consumed them and tried to destroy them a people Israel had entered into a covenant with 400 years earlier. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. However, there was not. If we would go back to Leviticus 26, we will see that David should have known that famine was no small thing in God's arsenal. God!before the Lordin Gibeah of Saul. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. It is not the sin of Adam and Eve; it is their own sin. We are starting to get some of the atmosphere around this event now. WebThe Gibeonite Deception - Now when all the kings west of the Jordan heard about these thingsthe kings in the hill country, in the western foothills, and along the entire coast of the Mediterranean Sea as far as Lebanon (the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites) they came together to wage war against Joshua and However, the Gibeonites did. That is the background on the Gibeonites, and their relationship with Israel. Justice seems to have been served. This incident appears in time sequence toward the end of his life. That the famine continued indicates God displeasure with David's decision and inner motives. However, if they did not participate, they are not going to be given a black mark by God for something that they did not do. This famine has been going on for three years, year after year. King David is mentioned by name as a hero of faith. He was not thinking spiritually. (Matthew 14:1921). Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. Each generation had to live out its days as "hewers of wood and carriers of water". When this righteous ruler turned to God, the Lord showed him that arrogant error of his predecessor. David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. All they wanted, they said, was a peace treaty with Israel; then they would return to their distant home. We do not know when it happened. Therefore, one of the first things that Joshua and the Israelites do is they allow a big problem to linger in their midst. We do not know how long before II Samuel 21 this incident happened. It looks to me like he tried to work out a political solution rather than a righteous one. God only let the rain cycle start again. ", If you are on your spiritual game, and famine is occurring in your land, do you wait three years until thousands may have died? Something is wrong. In 2 Samuel 21:1-14, we see that Saul committed an awful crime, and this caused famine in Israel. Why so? Up and down your family tree, sin does not go. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. 17 Then the children of Israel journeyed and came to their cities on the third day. It only says that God heeded the prayer of the land. These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. It certainly happened because it says there in verses 1 and 2 that Saul killed a lot of Gibeonites at some point in his reign. If people grow up in a society and culture that does not have God at their beck and call, they do whatever they wantwhatever comes naturally. He came at this as though he were guilty with Saul; that all Israelites were guilty with Saul and his house. One of the things He specifically mentions is famine, which happens to be the third sealphysical famine, but we remember from Amos that there is a spiritual famine as well. It is the time of the beginning of the barley harvest. Vote Up Report And we bear the guilt with them for that. Saul's bones are still in Jabesh-Gilead. You see, famine on the scale like thisthree yearsis a sign from God that things were not copacetic in the land. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. Saul committed a great crime against Gibeon and the Gibeonites. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. 21:2, NIV).2 Saul did this in his zeal for Israel and Judah. So for nationalistic reasons Saul was guilty of attempted genocide. 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