Barrie: 10D (I might be able to pull 9.5 with thin socks), 9.5 E, Tuesday split toe boots (no last name): 9.5, Borneo: 42 EU (snug fit with plenty room for toe to wiggle with medium socks), Kujang: 42.5 EU (snug fit with medium socks), 325: 9.5 UK (had to re-purchase just to recall my size), 365: 9 UK (snug with medium socks, would probably be clown looking if I went 9.5, but who knows), Military: 44 EU (had to throw thick socks for this, but no way I could pull 43, the weirdest fitting last Ive ever had), 4497: 9.5 UK fitting 6 (could probably pull 9 UK or same size but 5 fitting instead), 2020: 9.5 (with medium socks it fit snug). Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. My most desired English brand is C&J. Renav Goods Co A-1 Unstructured 42: Good fit for summer, but maxes out at Chup sock thickness. No more Stows for me. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. One think really dont understand is why GC dilute their brand with the C&J RTW line instead of focusing on the Anthony Cleverley line which I hardly see being sold anywhere. Now use your measurement and select the size based on your foot's length (see size chart below). You will find that most Meermin shoes are poorly finished when compared to the quality Goodyear Welting of the Carmina shoes. I have a pair of Berwick chukkas and theyre pretty decent but they also dont feel as good to wear as the AEs (personally I wish Id spent more money on a higher quality make, but the store was out of C&J chukkas at the time). This means the number of brands to cover increases, as they do at the bottom of most clothing categories, so towards the end we divide into regional sections instead. Stretched to become a bit too loose with heel slip note these are unlined, * **Yanko 915** 8UK, a bit loose at the heel, * **Zonkey Boot Classic** 8UK great fit but stiffeners are stiff, Brannock: 9D/E (on a printed paper brannock). The manager gave me a significant discount for resoling them but, even after three decades as a loyal customer, I would be reluctant to buy from them again. Ostmo Moe 43.5: Tried these on and this was a bang on size. F. E. F. Extra-wide. Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. (For a RTW dark brown oxford, although I could stretch my budget a bit more, up to 400 euros). There is decent toe room in spite of how tapered the chisel last looks. Looking to buy (a much much cheaper alternative to aldens ) the Berwick plain toe derbyhttps://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6. Thanks for an informative post. Its a standard Goodyear shoe, with no fuss. * **Thomas George Popes** 7.5UK quite snug, grips heel well but pinches the toes a bit. The Alden cordovan color of the shoe is achieved by a plastic pellicule which shaves rather quickly to reveal a light brown leather underneath. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. In the same way as it is well-known that, in general, the quality control of British brands in all price ranges is better than in Spain and Italy, British shoes almost always have a very even, solid level). Noel it is precisely the point you make that has been behind my long standing decision to stay with C&J over all these years. Perhaps more time and break in on the stiff leather sole would make it work. all have factory shops if you are looking for a classic style but at a price closer to a discounted Loake. To be clear, I dont know what they use. The new El Salvador ones were too tight and I'd require a 10.5. Heel is kind of big for an oxford shoe it turns out, stick to a boot for this last. For what its worth, Ive purchased more boots in the past 3 years than any other style of footwear (dress/service types of models). They look good, a bit more fashionable than the others, but I also cant say Ive worn them enough to really get a sense of their quality. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. As Im a women who is looking for well made leather shoes, I have even smaller heels than the male feet in comparison to feet length. I realise this may seem like a simple choice, and maybe thats exactly what youll say, but Im only 25 years old and money is definitely a consideration. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. Nice to hear your journey Joshua. The upper leather is stiff and prone to hard creases, but also a little thinner than other brands on this list which helps with comfort. Thanks for the informative post. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . Avoid if you have a low instep or wide feet. Edward Green)? The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. I bought AS through him when they were the best value for money in higher end shoes then moved to C&J on his advice. Pinky toe pinches a touch, * **Meermin Bob** 8UK a hint loose at the heel, but snug at the forefoot, * **Meermin Elton** 8UK very snug to start, much more comfy now, * **Meermin Olfe** 8.5UK could've probably gone down to 8UK but is still pretty comfortable, surprisingly not too slippy. Initially caused rubbing on my goofy 5th toe and sometimes I still feel discomfort there after a long day with a lot of walking. I'm trying to suss out sizing for several models: I don't know if I can help, but I will give it a go - do bear in mind, of course, that everyone's feet are different. Im a regular customer of both Jermyn Street shops and the customer service Ive consistently experienced over many years has been exceptionally good, significantly better than Ive experienced in some other, more expensive establishments that will be well known to readers of this blog. A pair of EG Chelseas bought today are just as good as a pair bought ten years ago as will be a pair bought in ten years time. Foot extends past footbed on sides. US size 8 at the best online prices at eBay! The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. Still tapered in in waist and heel for a comfortable lock in, but with more room in the toe box and at the ball. Also worth noting, is that Ive never written about this on Shoegazing, it just came up in the discussion with Simon when we talked about differences. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. I loved the MTO experience there. Especially compared to other Spanish or Italian shoes, which are also a bit softer than the English., North America: Spier & MacKay, Allen Edmonds, Cobbler Union, John Doe. With 10.5D, my feet are usually swimming in the shoe. Trickers town shoes, especially the wonderful Belgrave adelaide, top any C&J shoe I have in terms of comfort and build. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Because of the great leather material of the Carminas, youll get yourself a pair of shoes that are bound to stand you out in the positive way.CARMINA LEATHER, Meermins, on the other hand, are made with premium leather materials ranging from hybrid calfskin leather materials to even Shell Cordovan leather.MEERMIN LEATHER. I have a pair of black calf oxfords from Morjas and the leather feels rather cheap: it looks like patent leather, only matte not shiny. I dont really David the piece is deliberately written by someone else, not me, as its not an area I have that much experience with. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. For me, wearing pair of good bespoke shoes feels much better and more comfortable in many regards, also when compared to premium Goodyear welted brands. Meermins are not bad fits though; these shoes are flexible and stretchable enough to blend with your feet measurements accurately once you get the right sizing. However Id like to venture another (partial) explanation (I have bespoke garments but no bespoke shoes): If the fit on an RTW shoe is good (comfortable all day, no blisters once broken in), is it really worth moving from C&J handgrade to bespoke? If your size in a Viberg last is a bit snug I would consider sizing up for GYW. Thick, high quality leather, but without the supple stretchiness that C&Js and Westons uppers both have. I cant imagine very people are going to buy a sports jacket or merino sweater there. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. This means that in our Goodyear welted shoes you are likely to go down 0,5 size compared to what you wear in Meermin Hiro. Out of the two shoe brands, however, Carmina shoes come forth as the best shoes in this discourse. The alternative is leather board read the rest of the article and youll see it. In the bobcat it runs slightly large, and in the 145 it runs slightly narrow. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. Feels okay but gets painful in the midfoot as the day progresses. A very nice pair of black cap toes on the Eton last but far to hard to break in. Grant Stone Alexander 8.5E: hoping these fix the sizing issues.**. Altra Lone Peak 3.5: 12D, weirdly enough. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. So my true size is an 11.5, in most American boots I'm an 11, and all my boots with European sizing (like Tricker's) are a 10.5. Great advice Edric, thanks for helping Oliver. Never felt loose. Ive also, more recently, experienced the customer service at GC and G&G excellent in both cases, as was the consistently good service at the Little Cheaney shop in Leeds, when I lived in the North of England. My favourite pair of C&J have been back to the factory four times for refurbishment. I think shoegazing is largely irrelevant since the information it provides can be gathered more reliably elsewhere. Many thanks Simon as usual for the very informative article. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. regards judging quality by calf not suede? Particularly annoying is when they talk about cutting out a middle man, and going straight to consumer. I have this problem as well. Sizing down 1 from your HTT could be tricky. JavaScript is disabled. Seemed comfortable at first but the more I wore it, the more I realized it just doesn't work for me. Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. But I would be fairly confident that, as with other English makers, you get pretty much exactly what you pay for. Carmina shoes have better soles than the Meermin shoes. I still end up with shoes that are markedly higher quality than the vast majority of whats sold, and the more reasonable prices allow me to accumulate a broader range of options. The quality of the leather on my particular pair isnt as good as the Loake 1880 (or any of the other brands) but overall these are a well constructed pair of shoes. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. As been mentioned by Simon, dont see it as a complete list of brands, its just a selection of ones to highlight, theres plenty of good brands not mentioned (and plenty of less good ones as well). With that said, the number of good bespoke shoemakers that will make sure to both deliver good fitting and very well-made shoes is still very high in the world. But also, a lot of brands offer MTO with a different width at no extra cost, or only a small one. Onderhound New Buteo 41.5: Volume is a little high, but the width and arch length are bang on. It's a reasonably generous last. Does that refer to leather- or rubber ones? It depends what else you have of course, but a dark brown or slimmer overall look is more likely to be more useful,.and certainly better for suits. (I think I prefer the darker colour of the first). Foot extends past footbed on sides. C&J do not run their own shops. Although the quality is nothing to write home about, they are incredibly comfortable. Bought before I understood my size. Not having a physical shop makes a small difference, as does not selling wholesale or using an agent, but that doesnt translate to a shoe thats twice the quality. Because the level is higher, and also because I wasnt that impressed with Myrqvist either, personally. They are amazing shoes. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. My Yanko boots I enjoy in the winter months here in New Zealand (about now). But their attempt to branch out has caused them to lose their focus. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. Extraordinary. Matty: Late reply, but noticed your comment just now. There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. Their last is made for the Japanese feet, which are flatter in general with a smaller heel. It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. This is certainly true, and prices mentioned in this article are towards each brands respective domestic markets.. Whats interesting is that for US customers it can go both ways depending on guidelines/restrictions from the brands. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. Dedicated to informing, teaching, and sharing. Great read Simon. The stitching on the soles is also less dense, though the soles do have some nice detailing like shaped waists and channeled soles, as you mentioned. Aha, I see. Cross posting in case any regular readers of this thread can help. DESCRIPTION VIEW MODELS Forest is Carmina's most archetypal and early last. I think I could tell the difference between a standard C&J and EG from a distance, though I wouldnt like to put that to the test! Additional notes about feet:I was measured as 10.5D by an Allen Edmonds store associate several years ago. So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. Was no question about it in any of the cases). Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Carmina Men's Wing Tip Oxford. Is it enough to justify the extra 75 quid per pair? Really useful local knowledge, thanks David. Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes when all things are considered. I have found Robert (admittedly in sales, not specifically costumer service) to be accommodating in every respect; answering scores of questions over a months long decision making process. Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. both pairs have a dainite (or dainite-type, in Meermin's case) sole the Meermins have blind eyelets, whereas the Carminas have a brass eyelet that look to match the speedhook finish the heel on the Carminas is quite a bit longer than Meermin's Predictably, this European company uses European sizing, which is normally a full size down from your Brannock (or "true") size. Note: this is for the old China models. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. 14.3 22.carmima uk6.5 carmina6.5 meermin/ 26.5 carmina . I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. Closed lacing a few mm shy of coming together on day one. I have a pair of Chelsea boots by Sanders, bought at John Rushtons. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. Wapmaxi Time To Change 2015Meermin & Carmina Boot Sizing and Review Hey all, been a bit since I've posted but I stopped by both Meermin and Carmina in NYC the other day and thought I'd share my opinions for guys looking at either or both for fall boot wearing. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Solid fit. No worries at all, its much appreciated. Their online interface is very easy to use, and being able to make these selection is so much better than being constrained to the ready-made options a manufacturer has selected. There is a great day out to be had (or was) visiting the factory shops of the main makers in and around Northampton. Tanks, if you will. I would also include Lof & Tung on this list its Skoaktiebolagets house brand (though I havent seen any in person), and their customer service is excellent too. Its hard to say since theyre Chelsea boots, which means breaking in isnt as much of an issue as with lace-up shoes. They may not be top tier but they certainly are hard wearing. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. I have a pair of MacNeil long wings made in 1977, two years before I was born, that I acquired used and had resoled. I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! Finally, this last is fairly conservative, with less sleek lines than the C&J, Carmina, Weston, etc. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. Related/unrelated, I find myself in flux style wise right now in the early stages of coming out of Covid. This includes Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, Morjas, Myrqvist, Skolyx, Grenson, Carmina and TLB Artista and Id like to share some of my experiences. May have been fine with thinner socks. Meermin shoes are affordable but also very sturdy and premium-grade. The vamp was tight but not painful, toes were fine. To me, theyd come in just below C&J, Loding in Canada had a service (a couple years back) that involved a full time patina specialist in Montreal. But I am not a US citizen, at least no chauvinism involved. Interesting that not many people would know that though. Loake Bullet last (F-fit): 7Uk fits but a bit tight around toes. Im looking to acquire a couple of pairs of tassel loafers (one dark brown suede and one black calf). I have been wearing several pairs for ~18 years without an issue besides replacement of a couple of degraded rubber heel soles. You could specify any combo you wanted (dark navy to black, or dark purple to black, etc.) So, in summary, if you look at the price, most of Carmina's shoes cost 329 or 395 or $475, and for that amount of money, the range of last you get is quite good. The only issue is that the classic range is very stiff, and hard to break in. **. Alden Barrie (lined shell): 10D, a little snug at the big toe but great in the ball and very supportive overall. He replied straight-faced: No, we only use the best full-grain calf for our shoes. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. Best fitting Viberg last, comfortable from day one, even more than the newer 2030, but this has a little bit extra arch support and has some anatomical properties as well due to being a munson style. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. Very useful for us who buy shoes in this price range. I can fully close the lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. I would caution anyone against reading the shoegazing blog. As for Northampton shoes they are still great value if you buy in the sale or go to the factory shops. Own a pair of derby shoes in the last now. We start at the top end of that market, and then gradually work our way down. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. This is more than just the upper, but depending on the build, the leather insole will mold and compress to the foot. No issues on 5+ hour rides. This post is an epitome of that, and I may well take the opportunity to praise your reflection. For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. Hard as rock! I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. Sure David. The latter is more obvious on the outside of a shoe, and you would certainly get less with Alden for example. Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. My right foot always had some heel slip even with the laces pulled very tight and a tongue pad. Carmina shoes are well-fitting shoes that grip your feet firmly on the go so that you get more balance and stability in your motions. I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. Meermin shoes are cool and stylish as well, but, they are however not as stylish and cool as the Carmina shoes that are distributed in this present moment. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. I acknowledge I am emotionally attached to AE, it was the first quality brand I could access. Brilliant. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. If you will be ordering from the Trickers website, I suggest going over the fine print. If anything, I would say last and design are the least obvious things they are the easiest ones to mimic. Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. Myrqvist shoes are dreadful. That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. So in order to create a frame of reference, I phoned Jesper Ingevaldsson, who writes the website Shoegazing.com and now works in the industry, for Swedish shop/brand Skolyx. Would be interesting to hear. The choice of quality leather materials makes Meermin shoes very versatile and fitting for many wardrobes. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. I dont think either has changed in their quality, no. I am just wondering if there is anything else I am missing. Off sale they come in at about 380 per pair (sale price 225) and they have a great re-furb service where for 80, theyll send them back to you as good as new. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. 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